Post Cross Country Evaluation Meeting


December 1, 2003

Wilcox High School 4PM

1. Attendees:

All schools were represented at the meeting except Homestead, Los Altos,

Milpitas, and Santa Clara (coach has the flu). Also, the league liaison AD,

Tom Jacoubowski, attended the meeting.

2. League Meet Team Winners:

Congratulations to Monta Vista, who won the DAL varsity girls, FS Boys, and

JV girls team championships, Gunn, who won the El Camino varsity boys, FS

boys, and JV girls team championships, Los Gatos, who won the varsity boys

team championship, and Milpitas, who won the. varsity girls league


3. CCS Finals:

Congratulations to Milpitas, who won the division 1 CCS girls team

Championship and the Monta Vista girls, the Los Gatos girls, and the Gunn

boys, whose high finishes earned them spots in the State Meet.

Individually, Marie Nguyen and Erinn Kim finished 1-2 in the Division 1 race,

Tori Tyler finished 1st in the Division 2 race, Alicia Follmar finished 2nd in

the Division 3 race, and Jason Yow finished 2nd in the Division 1 race. Dana

Underwood and Lisa Worsham of Monta Vista, Erica Elias and Aarushi Bhargana

of Milpitas, MayC Huang and Aya Wakabayashi of Lynbrook, Julianne Hansen of

Cupertino, Renata Cummins of Palo Alto, and Ariana Nicewonger of Los Gatos

finished in the top 10 of their girls CCS races. Garrett Reid, Andrew

Lipkin, and Zach Klapholz-Brown of Gunn finished in the top 10 of the boys

division 2 CCS race.

4. State Meet:

The Gunn boys were our top team at the State Meet, finishing 6th in the

Division 2 race. The Monta Vista and Milpitas girls finished 13th and 15th in

the Division 1 race and the Los Gatos girls finished 20th in the Division 2

race. Alicia Follmar ran a great race to add the Division 3 XC title to her

track 1600 meter title from last year.

5. Comments Regarding the League Finals:

All schools entered complete teams in this meet, which meant that We were

able to qualify the maximum number of teams to the CCS meet.

We will make the following changes for the meet next year:

The DAL league will run in the first race instead of the El Camino. Then,

we will alternate races The El Camino league will lead off for the 2005


Due to the fact that we had 198 runners in the boys JV race and 174 runners

in the girls JV race, we voted to have separate JV races in 2004. However,

if we determine during the 2004 season that we have a lot less JV runners

than in 2003, we will run combined races. The race schedule will be as



F/S Boys 2:00 and 2:15

Var Boys 2:30 and 2:45

Var Girls 3:00 and 3:15

Open Boys 3:30 and 3:45

JV Girls - 4:00 and 4:15

The directors for our meet next year will be Palo Alto and Cupertino.

6. Comments Regarding The CCS Meet:

The coaches asked the league representatives to bring up for discussion at

the CCS post-season meeting the fact that the entry fee for XC is the same

as in all sports but most parents are just showing up for one 20-minute race

in XC whereas the duration of other CCS sports is much longer. Thus, the

coaches believe that the entry fee for XC should be less than for other


One of the two Mt.View coaches, even though she was wearing a Mt.View sweat

shirt, had to argue for a long time before being allowed to enter the CCS

meet for free. She would like to know how many coaches are allowed into the

CCS meet without having to pay.

Although runners were told that they could not run on the course after the

start of the first race, some did. In fact, a group of about 8 runners was

seen running about 2 minutes in front of the girls in one race at about the

2-mile mark. Is there anything that the CCS can do about this.

The coaches would like to know where the CCS meet will be held next year?

7. Comments Regarding the State Meet:

Coaches commented that the admission fee of $8 was very high and that coaches

should be given one free program.

Some runners suffer from asthma. Since the course was dry this year, there

was a lot of dust. Can the CIF arrange to have a water truck water the

course in years that it is dusty?

8. By-Law Changes:

We voted to make several by-law changes last year. Based upon the by-laws

shown on the Lynbrook website, which is not dated, it appears that the

following changes were not made:

Article III Section 4

"Teams may not start mandatory practice prior to the starting dates

established annually by the Board of Managers."

We added the word "mandatory" so coaches will know that voluntary

practices are okay.

Add Article III Section 6

"Schools may compete in a maximum of 3 scrimmages during their

season. These scrimmages will not count against their 13 meet

maximum. (A scrimmage is no score, no charge, and no awards)."

The CCS by-laws limit cross country teams to 13 meets but allow

each league to determine how many scrimmages that they want to

hold. In general, SCVAL schools do not hold any scrimmages.

However, most of the meets that they participate in must be

sanctioned by the CCS office no later than the prior April. In the

event that some meets that we normally participate in are not

timely sanctioned, we want to have the option of holding

scrimmages. Therefore, we have proposed the 3-scrimmage rule.

Article IV Section 4

"The top 15 finishers in the varsity races and the top 10 in the

frosh/soph boys and JV girls races will be awarded All-League


We voted several years ago to award all-league status to just the

top 10 in the FS and JV races but this revision has never been put

into the by-laws. Hopefully, the revisions will be presented to

the Board of Managers this year and approved.

Tom Jacoubowski will find out why these changes were not made and whether

the by-laws shown on the Lynbrook website are in fact the current XC by-


9. Honor Coaches:

Ernie Lee of Gunn was voted the honor coach for the boys and Mike Morris

for the girls.


10.SCVAL Center Meet For 2004:

Sam Read agreed to again direct this meet. It will probably be run on

Tuesday,10/05/04 - pending course availability.

We agreed that we would add a F/S girls race for 2004. We will have a 20-

minute separation between races with the first race starting at 3:00 and the

last race starting at 4:40PM.

11.Central Park Race For 2004:

The coaches would like Julie L'Heureux, the race director for the Central

Park race, to consider adding a frosh-soph girls race for 2004.