Post SCVAL XC Season Evaluation Meeting


November 28, 2005

Wilcox High School 4PM

1. Attendees:

The following coaches attended the meeting:

Paul Armstrong-Cupertino Tim Krieger-Monta Vista Tom Newman-Los Gatos

Bridget Hall-Milpitas Julie L’Heureux-Santa Clara Samatha Read-Mt.View

Paul Jones-Palo Alto Hank Lawson-Lynbrook Kenrick Sealy-Homestead

Peter Jordan-Saratoga Ernie Lee-Gunn Walt Van Zant-Wilcox

Pat Kitson-Fremont

2. League Meet Team Winners:

Congratulations to Palo Alto, who won the team championships for all of the El Camino

divisions, Los Gatos, who won the team championships for all of the DAL divisions

except the varsity girls, and Monta Vista, who won the DAL varsity girls team


3. CCS Finals:

Congratulations to the Los Gatos, Gunn, and Mt. View boys, who finished 1st, 4th, and 5th

in division 2 and the Los Gatos, Palo Alto, and Mt.View girls, who finished 2nd, 3rd, and

5th in division 2. 9 of our 14 boys teams and 12 of our 14 girls teams qualified for the

CCS meet.

Individually, Matthew Petrillo of Los Gatos, Scott Himmelberger of Palo Alto, and Kevin

Schneider of Fremont finished first through third in the division 2 boys race. Francis

Reynolds of Palo Alto, Alec Nickolls of Los Altos, Carl Reid of Gunn, and Brad Jacobs of

Saratoga finished in the top 10 of their boys CCS races. Allie Mayer of Gunn, Sumika

Shiokawa of Cupertino, Kaela Townsend and Jill Goodwin of Los Gatos, and Renata Cummins

and Alicia Ivanhoe of Palo Alto finished in the top 10 of their girls CCS races.

4. State Meet:

The Los Gatos boys were our top team at the State meet, finishing 3rd in the division 2

boys race. The Monta Vista girls finished 14th in the division 1 girls race and the Los

Gatos and Palo Alto girls finished 15th and 16th in the division 2 girls race. Kevin

Schneider was our fastest boy with a 16:05 and Sumika Shiokawa was our fastest girl at


5. Comments Regarding the League Finals:

All agreed that Ernie Lee and Peter Jordan did an excellent job of directing our

league finals this year.

The coaches recommended that the directors of the league finals next year request

permission from the league commissioner to hire a trainer for the league finals.

The directors for our meet next year will be Mt.View and Monta Vista.

6. Comments Regarding The CCS Meet:

Some coaches felt that we needed an official trainer at this meet.

A couple of coaches complained that the officials at the entry gate were rude.

Other coaches felt that we should have more porta johns and others suggested that there

be segregated porta johns for runners who were scheduled to run in the next race.

7. Comments Regarding the State Meet:

The coaches would like to receive one free program for the meet and they would like to get

their assistant coaches into the meet for free.

8. By-Law Changes:

We voted to make several by-law changes four years ago. The two suggested by-law changes

shown below have not yet been made.

Add Article III – Section 6

"Schools may compete in a maximum of 3 scrimmages during their

season. These scrimmages will not count against their 13 meet

maximum. (A scrimmage is no score, no charge, and no awards)."

The CCS by-laws limit cross country teams to 13 meets but allow

each league to determine how many scrimmages that they want to

hold. In general, SCVAL schools do not hold any scrimmages.

However, most of the meets that they participate in must be

sanctioned by the CCS office no later than the prior April. In the

event that some meets that we normally participate in are not

timely sanctioned, we want to have the option of holding

scrimmages. Therefore, we have proposed the 3-scrimmage rule.

We also voted four years ago to change the wording of Article III, section 4 to

read as follows:

"Teams may not start mandatory practice prior to the starting dates established

annually by the Board of Managers."

We added the word "mandatory" so coaches would know that voluntary practices are


We also voted in 1997 to limit the number of entrants in the frosh/soph boys race to 10

and thought that the Board of Managers had approved this change. However, the by-laws

shown on the SCVAL web page show no limitation for the frosh/soph race (Article 4,

section 2).

The coaches are still in favor of these changes. We would appreciate the Board of

Managers considering these changes and informing the league representatives whether

the proposed changes have been approved or disapproved.

9. Honor Coaches:

Ernie Lee of Gunn was voted the honor coach for the boys and Samantha Read

for the girls.

10.CCS By-Law Change

The coaches voted 12-1 to propose that the CCS CBED division splits be

changed to 2000+ for division 1 schools, 1600/1999 for division 2 schools,

1250/1599 for division 3 schools, 501/1249 for division 4 schools, and 500 and under

for division 5 schools. This would do a better job of equalizing the number of

schools that participate in each division in the CCS.

The coaches voted 13-0 to propose that at-large entries for individuals be allowed at the

CCS meet. The at-large standard would be equal to the average 25-percentile finisher

for each division for the last 4 years of the CCS meet. Hank Lawson, who proposed this

change, noted that this standard would have added just a few extra entrants during each of

the last few years.

11.Paul Jone stated that he would study the feasibility of holding an SCVAL Center Meet at

Crystal next season. He will also look over the data for the last few years to determine

whether we should propose adding a frosh-soph girls race to our league finals.